Monday 13 April 2015

Thomas McCartney There is no Rational reason for any pit bull type dogs to be taking it's next breath......................................unless it is in a zoo.!!!!


Sarah Elizabeth Burke shared Prinz Marcus von Anhalt'svideo.
April 5 at 12:09pm
The size of that dog's head is disgusting. Wtf is an American bully xxl? Essentially a supersized pit bull?
'American Bully XXL playing with his 5 weeks old son. Unique Bloodline Kennel - mehr hier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_YU50YzKr0'
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American Bully XXL playing with his 5 weeks old son. Unique Bloodline Kennel - mehr hier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_YU50YzKr0
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  • Lisa Black Yeah--looks like a pit bull that's been loading up on McDonald's and steroids.
    April 5 at 12:15pm · Like · 12
  • Karen Branson Hideous, demonic looking things.
    April 5 at 12:31pm · Like · 9
  • Cristy J Caddell That thing is hideous! I once saw a pit kill every one of its puppies, because the family cat got to close to them. The cat was mauled to. After she was done mutilating them, she walked around wagging her tail like she was proud of what she had just accomplished. It blew my mind!
    April 5 at 12:32pm · Like · 13
  • Joy Bruce What the heck is this?
    April 5 at 12:33pm · Like · 2
  • Jennifer Sue Scott Come on...that's definitely a Poodle Mix!
    April 5 at 12:39pm · Like · 8
  • James Hassinger XXL = xtra xtra licks
    April 5 at 1:10pm · Like · 13
  • Olivia Wyatt Children aren't toys, you can't replace their face like you can with a doll. Also their hearts are deeply wounded.
    April 5 at 7:47pm · Like · 12
  • Lisa Gaffney Aww, how sweet... He hasn't disemboweled him yet! 
    April 7 at 10:42am · Like · 6
  • Julie Wall The American Bully is a recently developed breed of dog which was bred to be a companion dog and show version of the American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier. First appearing in the 1990’s, the American Bully is rapidly increas...See More
    American Bully Breed Information: History, Health, Pictures, and more
    Everything American Bully; breed history,...
    EASYPETMD.COM
    April 7 at 11:02am · Edited · Like · 2
  • Patricia Forbell I swear it looks like a hyena.. acts like one too.
    April 7 at 11:10am · Like · 4
  • Sonya Del Rio Cerezo It looks ugly as heck. These dogs need to be extinct already.
    April 7 at 8:15pm · Like · 3
  • Jeff Borchardt The term Bulldog is most commonly referring to the English Bulldog, although there are variations in the breed, such as the American Bulldog, Olde English Bulldogge, and the French Bulldog. The original Bulldog was used in the blood sport of bull and bear baiting, until those were outlawed in 1835. In New York in the mid 17th century, the Governor brought in Bulldogs to round up wild bulls. The English and French Bulldogs (but not the other variants) were eventually crossed with a pug, and no longer have the attributes of bull baiters. The Olde English Bulldogge is a recreation of the original bull-baiting, pit-fighting bulldog of Elizabethan days and is considered one of the Pit Bull breeds. The American Bulldog is a mix of these original fighting bulldogs and a mastiff type, and is also considered a Pit Bull breed. See Section Two for information about these two Bulldog types.

    Section Two – The Olde English Bulldogge, The American Bulldog, The Boston Bulldog

    The Olde English Bulldogge:

    Unlike the English and the French Bulldogs, the Olde English Bulldogge and the American Bulldog were not mixed with Pug or other purely companion breeds. The Olde English Bulldogge is a recreation of the original bear-baiting, horse-baiting, pit-fighting bulldog of Elizabethan England. The American Bulldog is a mix of these original bulldogs with a mastiff type1,2.

    The Boston Bulldog is smaller than these two, but it is also considered a fighting breed, created by mixing Pit Bull with the Boston Terrier (the Boston Terrier is a slender terrier type that functions mostly as a companion breed)1,2. The Boston Bulldog is no longer very popular as a fighting dog because of its small size, but it retains the characteristics it was originally bred for.

    All three of these Bulldogs are considered Pit Bull breeds. For more detailed information, please see our American Pit Bull Terrier page.

    In North America, from 1982-2013, Pit Bull breeds and mixes have seriously attacked 2,990 humans that resulted in 1,777 maimings and 275 deaths.



    1. Fleig, D, Fighting Dog Breeds, THF Publications Inc, Neptune City NJ, 1996.

    2. Jenkins, R and Mollett, K, The Story of the Real Bulldog, THF Publications Inc, Neptune City NJ, 1997

    Read more: http://www.daxtonsfriends.com/bulldog/

    http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/.../is-american-bulldog...
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    The term Bulldog is most commonly referring to the English Bulldog, although there are variations in the...
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    April 7 at 8:18pm · Like · 5
  • Christy Cornell The UKC is one organization which recognizes the American Bully. The UKC also recognizes the close relationship the American Bully has with the American Staffordshire Terrier because the UKC allows ALREADY registered UKC American Staffordshire Terriers to switch registries to the UKC American Bully registry with only needing the request from the dog's current owner.
    April 9 at 2:40am · Edited · Like · 2
  • Gabriel Barros I believe they can be dual-registered. No need to leave one registry for another. But hey, nobody can identify a pit bull so all those dual-registered pit bull dogs could be Border Collies.
    April 9 at 10:20am · Like · 5
  • Carol Miller Gabriel is correct. If you have an AKC American Staffordshire Terrier you can double register the dog with the UKC as an American Pit Bull Terrier under the single registration rules. You can google UKC Single registration for pit bulls and get all the details. The dog is dual registered.
    April 9 at 12:35pm · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell Yes, I agree that UKC American Staffordshire terriers can be double registered with the ADBA (APBT) registry, those two organizations have a reciprocity agreement for dual registry of American Staffordshire terriers and American Pit Bull Terriers. 

    ...See More
    April 10 at 9:46am · Edited · Like · 1
  • Christy Cornell HOLY MOLY!!!

    This is significant!!!    ...See More
    April 9 at 1:19pm · Edited · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell So as of March 23, the ADBA no longer registers American Staffordshire terriers as dual regitered American Pit Bull Terriers. The ADBA is now registering American Staffordshire terriers as a SEPARATE breed. They are purposefully SPLITTING the pitbull breeds, so it makes the high death toll from pitbulls look less significant.
    April 9 at 1:29pm · Like · 3
  • Christy Cornell And the ADBA is now (newly) recognizing American Bully's. The ADBA did NOT recognize American Bully's, but now they DO as of March 23, 2015.
    April 9 at 1:31pm · Like · 3
  • Christy Cornell Jeff Borchardt 

    Take a look at what the ADBA is doing.
    April 9 at 1:33pm · Like · 1
  • Sarah Elizabeth Burke Those dogs look seriously deformed, they probably have a ton of health problems..
    April 10 at 3:00am · Like · 3
  • Olivia Wyatt The better to crush our bones and kill us----that's what an XXL American Bully does to a human. God help us.
    April 10 at 3:01am · Like · 2
  • Sarah Elizabeth Burke At least you could probably outrun one if they started chasing you! They don't look very fast.
    April 10 at 3:02am · Like · 2
  • Gabriel Barros Unless you're like 30m away and have a head start they should wear out by the time they reach you. If you're 10m away, they will catch you.
    April 10 at 3:10am · Like · 3
  • James Hassinger Outrun? Dogs run up to 35 mph. Even a slow dog runs half that. I couldn't run even 10 miles a hour (1 mile in 6 minutes) to save my life. Any dog except maybe a tiny toy breed would catch any human except for maybe the fastest Olympic athletes. Humans run further than any dog, but all humans would lose in a sprint.
    April 10 at 7:26am · Like · 1
  • James Hassinger So now they're calling pit bulls two different breeds? Makes this meme even more accurate
    April 10 at 7:27am · Like · 3
  • Gabriel Barros The fat pit bulls will probably wear out quickly if it has to chase you long enough. The more athletic gamey ones don't wear out as easily so you'll end up having to kill it.
    April 10 at 7:39am · Like · 2
  • Kell Brigan The big one's an "American Bull Dog," aka. another man-made molosser/mastiff mutant. This is the breed that attacked me (and bit my grocery bags rather than me, thank God) about three years ago. They're massive, and very strange looking, i.e. with no r...See More
    April 10 at 8:07am · Edited · Like · 3
  • Christy Cornell American Bully pitbull types are dangerous, no doubt. The classic/standard sized American Bully's are bulkier than a Amstaff or an APBT, and likely don't have the stamina of an Amstaff/APBT, but make no mistake, those classic/standard types of American Bully are still very athletic. And the XL /XXL sized American Bullys are so thick and muscular that it makes them pretty immune to blunt objects/kicks, so they are pretty much unstoppable unless you have a gun/knife. If you are attacked by an XL /XXL American Bully, even having an adult rescuer right there won't help, an average grown man couldn't physically stop that big of a dog. The XL American Bully that killed Mia Derouen took 13 rounds before it went down. 

    There are several categories of American Bullys and even the pocket sized American Bullys could outrun a child and easily kill that child. 

    Though there will likely be new categories dreamt up and created by pitbull aficionados, these are the current categories of American Bully's:

    Pocket
    Classic
    Standard
    Extreme
    XL
    XXL
    April 11 at 3:38pm · Edited · Like
  • Christy Cornell Here is a chart created by American Bully aficionados. As you can see , it is already outdated and missing newly created categories of sizes.
    April 11 at 1:19am · Edited · Like · 4
  • Christy Cornell The XXL is not shown on this chart.
    April 11 at 1:25am · Like · 1
  • Christy Cornell Niko, the disgustingly ugly dog which killed beautiful little Mia Derouen was an XL American Bully.
    April 11 at 1:29am · Like · 1
  • Christy Cornell There is even a shorter size being bred than the Pocket American Bully. I've seen these dog referred to as either "Shorty Bulls"or as "Mini Pocket Bully". The American Bully breed is ever evolving an is the trendy pitbull type right now. Basically, this breed is being created before our eyes. The breeders of these pitbull types are obviously still standardizing the names and the sizes. 

    http://www.bullterrierdallas.com/FamousBullies/spudgirl.htm
    April 11 at 1:44am · Like · 1
  • Christy Cornell Kell Brigan , not disputing the type of dog which attacked you, but the American Bully is a recent creation of a pitbull type derived from the staffys (American Staffordshire terriers and Staffordshire Bull terriers) and supposedly some of the other bully type breeds. The American Bulldog is a much, much older breed and is actually a recreation of the Old English White Bulldog, or some would say it is close to what the original Molossar mastiff type bulldog looked like. 

    The American Bully and the American Bulldog are NOT the same breed. The names are very similar and some of the types look a little similar. But they are BOTH pitbull types and are LEGALLY pitbulls. American Bullys are bred from the AKC/UKC staffys, so they LEGALLY qualify as pitbulls. American bulldogs likely had pitbulls as some of their foundation stock and they have recently had REGISTERED APBT (American Pit Bull Terrier) infused into the breed, so they are pitbull crosses/mixes and are LEGALLY pitbulls.
    April 11 at 2:06am · Edited · Like
  • Christy Cornell And if couldn't be more crazy, the American Bulldog has different types:

    1. Johnson    ...See More
    April 11 at 2:20am · Like
  • Kell Brigan 8 |. Thanks for the info. The one that attacked me had that massive (almost deformed) front musculature, so I'm guessing a "bully." Heaven knows, his owner was a "bully," too.
    April 11 at 3:02am · Like · 2
  • Christy Cornell Kell Brigan , so glad you survived the attack. I'm not surprised that the owner was a "bully" too. So many time the victim is victimized again by the dog owner when they stand up and try to get justice after getting attacked.
    April 11 at 3:29am · Like · 1
  • Gabriel Barros There's a few reasons for all the types of pit bulls. Dog fighters had to disguise the breed name and moron pit bull breeders always believe they can make a "better" pit bull.
    April 11 at 4:03am · Like · 5
  • Christy Cornell Agreed, Gabriel Barros . The American Bully was supposed to be a less dog aggressive and more laid back version of the previous pitbull types, but thus far, it doesn't seem to be the case. Just like all the other pitbull types, American Bullys are atta...See More
    April 11 at 3:44pm · Edited · Like · 2
  • Gabriel Barros Christy Cornell If pit freaks were to breed out what makes a pit bull dangerous they'd no longer look like pit bulls. Go read about or watch "The Silver Fox Experiment" and you'll see why.
    April 11 at 7:13am · Like · 1
  • Jeff Borchardt http://cravendesires.blogspot.com/.../is-american-bulldog...This is still my favorite.
    craven desires: Is an american bulldog a pit bull?
    Don't forget they were called American Pit Bulldogs...
    CRAVENDESIRES.BLOGSPOT.COM|BY SCURRILOUS AMATEUR BLOGGER
    April 11 at 7:51am · Like · 4
  • Jeff Borchardt http://www.workingpitbull.com/activities2.html
    Official Pit Bull Site of Diane Jessup
    Pat Cook and OTCh Rollo, UD, without doubt the best bully obedience team ever to grace the ring. Rollo is...
    WORKINGPITBULL.COM
    April 11 at 7:52am · Like · 2
  • Gabriel Barros Kell Brigan Exactly, that video explains the major points of the study which has been going on for over 50 years. But somehow pit freaks wants us to believe genetics has nothing to do with pit bulls. Like somehow they are immune to genetics. They didn't start seeing major results until about 5-8 generations of strict breeding. Imagine what it would take to make a pit bull safe. Imagine what it would look like.
    April 11 at 7:58am · Like · 4
  • Jeff Borchardt LMFAO with this screenshot every time. 
    April 11 at 8:02am · Like · 4
  • Kell Brigan I suspect pit bulls bred for for tameness would look a lot like this. (Why not just find a Jack Russell to start with?)
    April 11 at 8:05am · Edited · Like · 3
  • Christy Cornell Gabriel Barros, yeah, I'm familiar with the fox experiment, we had a good discussion about it last year on Dog Bite Law, and I actually think it's a good study right up until the hot shot boy wonder anthropologist comes in and starts talking about "cuteness". He injects his opinion into the study, much of it based in the assumption that dogs definitely came from wolves (IMO, the jury is still out on that one) and I don't think he's right about some of the things he says. 

    First of all, the ears of the tame foxes didn't all change. Only some of them did, and many times the change (floppiness) was only that the ears stayed floppy for a little longer than usual. That tells me that floppiness of ears is not always necessary for tameness of foxes. Nor is it a good indication of Safety in dog breeds. Not all dog breeds have floppy ears. Some floppy eared dogs, like pitbulls and Rottweilers, are the worst as far as high DBF. 

    Yes, there were definite and better measurable changes in the tails/legs (shortening lengths and sometimes tails even curling over) and coats (color changes, etc) of some of the tame foxes, but again, not in all. To me, this is tail/leg and coat change is actually more significant than the late stage erect ear development, but, again, it wasn't in all of the tame foxes. And we can look at all the various dog breeds to see changes like those are easily made when man develops breeds. I just don't think this study is definitive proof of anything other than that aggression can be bred away in wild/undomesticated canines (there's also implications that there can be distinctive breeds of domesticated foxes within the domesticated fox) if it is done in a closed and closely controlled experiment with STRICT culling of any animal which shows aggression. Because domesticated dogs and undomesticated dogs are both canines, there are implications that it can be done with already domesticated dogs like pitbulls, but as I think it was Lynn Lynne Smith who pointed out in last year's discussion we had on Dog Bite Law, pitbulls are not a pure form of canine. Pitbulls have already been manipulated by man for bringing out aggressive traits, so it is likely the existing pitbulls dogs are missing some natural genes which may be needed to successfully do something similar to the Silver Fox Experiment, so that's why I suggested that a large amount of NON-bully breed(s) would have to be added in to the current pitbull breed. This addition of dog breeds so morphologically dissimilar to pitbulls would likely cause the pitbull breed to look different when infused in enough amounts to reduce to dog aggression and the unpredictable nature of the pitbull breed, but ( in an ideal world) maybe there could be a satisfactory new look to pitbulls which appeals to pitbull owners even as it reduces the high rate at which pitbulls kill humans and are dog aggressive. 

    Do I think this could possibly happen? Yes. I think it is possible. But only if it was done in a strictly controlled environment where there were LONG TERM (20+years) experiments and strict culling of any aggressive pitbulls (including siblings and parents) was done without mistake, even if the dog showed aggression much later in life. 

    Do I think that it will happen? NO. Definitely not. Not ever will it happen with the current state of affairs of pitbulls and their owners/breeders emotional co-dependency. There would never be proper culling done. Unlike the Russian scientist who could be impartial judges of the Silver Fox temperament, there would always be soft hearted pitbull breeders who fudged when it came to culling. And unless there was government funding, they probably wouldn't be able to do it in a controlled environment either. And even by the remote chance of it ever being accomplished, without a system of effectively identifying each and every pitbull (strict licensing of pitbull owners and pitbulls with microchips/tattos for the dogs), the first generation of those experimental pitbulls released to the public would likely soon be mixed with pitbulls which weren't from the experimental group, so it would have all been done in vain.
    April 11 at 9:43am · Edited · Like · 4
  • Gabriel Barros Whatever pit freaks seek to accomplish with "designer pits", from what I can tell, is of little consequence not or anytime in the near future. Maybe a few generations from today but I don't see a pit bull that doesn't look like a pit bull but acts like a pit bull anytime soon. If it happens in 100 years from now, I will never know it. BSL regarding pit bulls should be the primary focus. Attempting to capture pit bulls that don't look like pit bulls might be a futile effort.
    April 11 at 10:02am · Like · 2
  • Kell Brigan "...maybe there could be a satisfactory new look to pitbulls which appeals to pitbull owners even as it reduces the high rate at which pitbulls kill humans and are dog aggressive." Given the incredible arrogance of pit bull owners -- ignoring existing laws, playing childish name games, abusing the service dog system, blaming victims of attacks -- it seems to me that they want the high level of aggression. A safer pit bull wouldn't give them the threat/danger high they seem to need, regardless of appearance.
    April 11 at 10:15am · Like · 2
  • Lynne Smith Wow Christy, you remember more of what I write than I do. But you are right, the concept of gene saturation is at play here. When you create a breed, you do so with certain traits in mind, reinforcing and saturating them, and breeding other completely out. You can't breed for what you bred out. In fact, you can't breed for much of anything at all. The genes get so uniform the only way to get different genes is to add a new breed to the mix. All that will do is create a new pit bull variety, and they will keep the old ones. And since pits were bred to be unpredictable, there is no way of know if you are breeding good genes on or not. There are plenty of muscular looking dogs now between the various companion bull dogs breeds and short coated hunting dogs, just like there are other risky breeds that can be chosen now. People choose pit bulls to fulfill some need, sometimes to have the most aggressive dog, sometimes to be the biggest rescue angel, sometimes to be the lion tamer, sometimes to tempt fate, sometimes for having a dog an abused person can identify with, sometimes a cause to fight for. None of these things are good reasons but they are reasons all the same that other breeds don't provide.
    April 11 at 10:21am · Like · 3
  • Gabriel Barros Kell Brigan This is what many people don't understand about pit bull advocates. Pit bull owners don't want a safer dog. If they did they wouldn't have chosen a pit bull in the first place. They enjoy the drama and violence pit bulls easily provide.
    April 11 at 10:21am · Like · 7
  • Kell Brigan ...I think Lynne Smith may be right about the "biggest rescue angel" motivation, too. Whatever's going on that makes women send marriage proposals to serial killers may well be going on here, too.
    April 11 at 10:24am · Like · 5
  • Lynne Smith Some think it is a safer dog. I really don't know how they can, but I think its their way of changing reality to a world they like. If they can prove a dangerous dog isn't, they can prove other things, legitimize other things about themselves, other people. There is a reason so many of them fight so hard and become so unhinged. I'm sure it differs for each person, but there is a general theme of the type of people involved.
    April 11 at 10:27am · Like · 4
  • Christy Cornell Agreed. The codependency which goes along with this breed is what make pitters act like nutters. And I was just throwing my opinion on how it could possibly be done, but don't get me wrong, I know there will never be a safer pitbull breed bred, not in a 100+ years (and pitters could never wait even 10 years to release the latest trendy pitbull type) , so I very much agree we should never lose our primary focus on BSL.
    April 11 at 10:51am · Edited · Like · 7
  • Jeff Borchardt Is there really any use for ANY type of fighting/gripping breed in this day and age? At least in this country? Don't give me that excuse that you need them for "hog hunting" either. What a joke. Watch an episode of Duck Dynasty. Eat a duck if you must. Good Lord.
    April 11 at 4:15pm · Like · 12
  • Thomas McCartney There is no Rational reason for any pit bull type dogs to be taking it's next breath......................................unless it is in a zoo.!!!!
    April 12 at 1:52am · Like · 4
  • Lisa Gaffney They couldn't even do a zoo enclosure unless only one pit to a pen. They'd kill each other.
    April 12 at 1:54am · Like · 5
  • Kell Brigan I really wish breeders, dog shows, animal welfare groups, etc. would have a great big attack of conscience. As many others have said, creating these extreme breeds that can't exist safely in society, that can't walk or breathe properly, that have marathon seizures, etc. etc., is absolutely animal abuse.
    April 12 at 4:07am · Like · 8
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